the “toughest gun bill” in the nation…and why I’m very afraid.

Posted: January 16, 2013 in gun policy, politics, Republicans
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BREAKING UPDATE: After 5 Hours Of Debate NY Assembly Passes ‘Toughest Gun Bill’ In The Nation                   

By Lorraine Devon Wilke
With an afterward – why this scares the shit out of me – by Mike (stuff that matters)

New York Assembly votes to pass NY  SAFE ACt @ The Huffington Post

New York Assembly votes to pass NY SAFE Act

After the New York state Senate passed the SAFE bill Monday night, January 14th, with a vote of 43-18, observers went into watch-and-wait mode as the sweeping gun legislation was handed to the Assembly for their vote. While some hoped it might come in later Monday night, the Democratic led Assembly scheduled a 10:00 Tuesday morning session to address the momentous and controversial bill.

After five hours of debate, the Assembly passed Governor Andrew Cuomo’s comprehensive package in a vote of 104-43. Some are elated, praising the bill at “a big deal,” while others contend it was a rush job. From The Wall Street Journal:

“This bill tramples on the constitutional rights of our citizens,” said Assemblyman Marc Butler, a Republican from upstate Herkimer county.

Butler was one of several Republican Assembly members who voiced strong disapproval for the bill. He and others worried about the impact of the new law on New York gun manufacturer Remington Arms, based in Ilion, N.Y. The law would render some of Remington’s products illegal, like the AR-15 rifle used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Republican lawmakers said the bill was rushed through by Cuomo so that he could make national headlines.

Regardless of predictable Republican response, the majority felt the time had come, particularly after the tragedy of Sandy Hook, to put some real teeth in gun legislation, passing what some say is the toughest gun control bill in the nation. The Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act, or NY SAFE, includes stricter provisions related to the reporting of mentally ill patients who may pose a threat; to provisions that restrict magazines to seven bullets (it is currently 10), demand background checks (through a dealer) of anyone other than immediate family in a private sale, bar sales of assault weapons over the Internet, make it a misdemeanor to not properly store a weapon, and, most controversially, outlaw a broader array of military-style weapons, changing the definition of an assault weapon:

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two “military rifle” features such as folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The proposal reduces that to one feature and includes the popular pistol grip.

At a time when the debate about gun control too often threatens to grind to a halt with little accomplished, it is a monumental shift in attitude to see a state, a governor, a senate and an assembly act quickly and definitively to turn talk into action. There will be much discussion over the passing of this bill, but the reality that a sweeping new gun law was passed in the first month of 2013 hopefully bodes well for further sensible and bipartisan gun legislation in other states.

[UPDATE: An hour after the Assembly passed the NY SAFE bill, Governor Andrew Cuomo signed it into law, Tuesday, January 15, 2013.] 


Why this scares the shit out of me

From Mike (stuff that matters):   This frightens me.  Truly.  There are many, many people in our country who view their ‘right’ to own military-style weapons as SO fundamental, so sacred, such a symbol of their freedom and even their personhood, that they will go to any length to protect this “right,” feeling justified all the way up to and beyond armed resistance.   I believe that blood will be shed…and that this policy change (as it becomes federal), as right and wise as it might be, will be born with a fair amount of blood and pain.

Although I firmly believe that these people are grossly misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment, they believe what they believe with a fervor that almost goes beyond religion.  And we know what people throughout history have been willing to do in the name of their religion!

Here’s a sample of images from my own Facebook friends’ pages (yes, I have some very conservative friends).   Does this frighten you as much as it does me?



  1. Doug Wilson says:

    I fear the current conversation and legislation for exactly the same reason as you do. I have some extremely conservative friends and family members and have little doubt that there may well be bloodshed in the near future because people believe their “freedoms” are being curtailed.

    • nash says:

      Exactly, Doug. Although I firmly believe that they are misinterpreting the 2nd Amendment, they believe what they believe with a fervor that almost goes beyond religion. And we know what people throughout history have been willing to do in the name of their religion! (In fact, I’m going to add this sentence to the end of my article.) Thanks, Doug.

  2. This is such a can of worms… but, it’s definitely a topic worth debating. One of my friends posted on facebook this morning this…

    “I’m confused. Why is that when people talk about guns they freak out? Why can’t we ask to be educated? On BOTH sides of the issue? I have yet to have a civilized, informative, educational experience on either side of the issue. I have watched numerous videos, speeches, posts, expressions and I don’t get it. As a History teacher, I GET the second amendment. I have read it. I have researched it. I have looked up numerous articles and decisions regarding rights and why we have those rights. I have notes in my Iphone regarding the issue. It bugs me. It confuses me. I don’t know where to go to next.”

    … and I couldn’t agree with her more. I grew up in the country, on a farm, with many family members and friends who hunted and carried firearms (in their trucks, usually) on a (sometimes) daily basis. Heck, I even had friends come to school with loaded weapons in the gun racks in the back window of their trucks. It just wasn’t an issue. And I’m really not that old!

    While I don’t think that banning ALL weapons is the answer, I do believe that there are certain weapons that we, as general citizens, should not have the ‘right’ to carry or own. I was very pleased to see, in the article about this bill, “The Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act, or NY SAFE, includes stricter provisions related to the reporting of mentally ill patients who may pose a threat…” I think that is the key to providing more safety to ALL of our citizens.

    Bottom Line: crazy guy wants a gun, crazy guy’s probably going to get a gun. But, we don’t have to make it so easy for him.

    On a side note… I am an educator, and I can honestly tell you that if there was someone armed in our building at all times, I would feel safer. Again, another can of worms.

  3. Anthony says:

    The only thing to fear is fear itself. If they come out shooting they will rot in jail. We cannot allow the threat of violence stop us from stopping the insanity. Keep up the good fight.

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