Sunday thoughts #10: belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man -Thomas Paine

Posted: January 27, 2013 in believing, sunday thoughts
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creative_soul_canvas2I’ve written about my spiritual journey here – about doubt and enlightenment and change.   And as I’ve wrestled with these things over the past 10 years, I’ve learned to relax – my “crisis of faith” has slowly become part of who I am, and, I believe, has made me a better (and happier) man.

Rachel Evans writes about these same things…but in a way that’s so beautiful, so compelling that I had to share it with you.   She’s one of my spiritual journey heroes.

“But the questions that have weighed most heavily on me these past ten years have been questions not of the mind but of the heart, questions of conscience and empathy. It was not the so-called “scandal of the evangelical mind” that rocked my faith; it was the scandal of the evangelical heart…

I heard a theology professor explain the other day that he had no problem whatsoever with God orchestrating evil acts to accomplish God’s will, for that is what is required for God to be fully sovereign! When asked if this does not make God something of a monster, he responded that it didn’t matter; God is God—end of story.”

Read Rachel’s article “The Scandal of the Evangelical Heart” HERE

“It’s right for God to slaughter women and children anytime he pleases. God gives life and he takes life. Everybody who dies, dies because God wills that they die.”   – John Piper

“Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.”    – Thomas Paine

  1. CToBM says:

    There was no such word as homosexuality in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek so Jesus could not have anything to say about homosexuals. That word and concept was defined in the late 1800s CE. But there were males who did not have sexual relations with women in the first century CE. When we realize that another language didn’t have a word for a topic, we have to realize that it probably didn’t have a unified concept either.
    The closest concept in Ancient Greek, Ancient Hebrew or Aramaic for someone not being attracted to the opposite gender is ‘eunuch’ which is a male who does not have sexual relations with a woman.
    “But Jesus said unto them, “All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
    For there are some eunuchs who were so born from their mother’s womb,
    and there are some eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men,
    and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it”. Matthew 19:11-12
    Starting with the third type of eunuch are “those who have made themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake”. Today these would be the religious monks and Roman Catholic Priests who take an oath of chastity when they take their vows of ordination. They choose to forgo the sexual relationships with all women.
    The second type of eunuch are those “who were made eunuchs by men”. These are those males who have been surgically or chemically castrated in order to stop them from having a sexual desire for anyone. The most common reason for the creation of eunuchs is to provide guards for the ladies of the harem to insure that any children born to the ladies were the legitimate offspring of their husband or master. Also this was formerly performed, as late as the 1800s on prepubescent males to preserve their childlike voices to sing in Church choirs.
    The first type of eunuch are those “who were so born from their mother’s womb”. Not by surgery. Not by choice. Born that way, or as Lady Gaga would say, “Born this way”! These are males who never have a desire for sexual relations with females; the homosexual male.
    And notice that none of these are condemned by Jesus, the Christ when he says, “He that is able to receive it, let him receive it”.
    And remember that it was a eunuch who was the first Gentile to be Baptized.
    So he got up and went. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship and was returning home; seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah. Then the Spirit said to Philip, ‘Go over to this chariot and join it.’ So Philip ran up to it and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah. He asked, ‘Do you understand what you are reading?’ He replied, ‘How can I, unless someone guides me?’ And he invited Philip to get in and sit beside him. Now the passage of the scripture that he was reading was this:
    ‘Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter,
    and like a lamb silent before its shearer,
    so he does not open his mouth.
    In his humiliation justice was denied him.
    Who can describe his generation?
    For his life is taken away from the earth.’
    The eunuch asked Philip, ‘About whom, may I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?’ Then Philip began to speak, and starting with this scripture, he proclaimed to him the good news about Jesus. As they were going along the road, they came to some water; and the eunuch said, ‘Look, here is water! What is to prevent me from being baptized?’ He commanded the chariot to stop, and both of them, Philip and the eunuch, went down into the water, and Philip baptized him. Acts 8:27-38 NRSV

  2. Torger Helgeland says:

    wow, torg

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